debunking myths 4

[Shmanu YAH]

shalom mishpacha, "ALL praises and glory to the Most High YHWH" from where all true wisdom and knowledge originates and let us not forget: "baruka ha'bo b'shem YHWH" - which accurately means: "blessed is your coming in the name of YHWH" @ Yahushua !

                             I pray all is well with you or will be soon, todah YHWH

This time around I want to continue in the series of "debunking myths" and that seems to be so necessary in these days due to much of what I call "word vomit". Again I hear more errant teaching going forth pertaining it's ok to cook food on the weekly shabat as they claimed Yahushua did.

The misunderstanding came from their quick and amateur understanding of Matthew chapter 12 and Luke chapter 6, pertaining to Yahushua supposedly cooking food on the shabat, so let us revisit these right now.

Matthew 12:1-4, At that time Yahushua went on the Sabbath day through the corn; and his disciples were an hungred, and began to pluck the ears of corn, and to eat. 12:2 But when the Pharisees saw it, they said unto him, Behold, thy disciples do that which is not lawful to do upon the Sabbath day. 12:3 But he said unto them, "Have ye not read what David did, when he was an hungred, and they that were with him; 12:4 How he entered into the house of Elohim, and did eat the shewbread, which was not lawful for him to eat, neither for them which were with him, but only for the priests?"

Luke 6:1-5, And it came to pass on the second Sabbath after the first, that he went through the corn fields; and his disciples plucked the ears of corn, and did eat, rubbing them in their hands. 6:2 And certain of the Pharisees said unto them, Why do ye that which is not lawful to do on the Sabbath days? 6:3 And Yahushua answering them said, "Have ye not read so much as this, what David did, when himself was an hungred, and they which were with him; 6:4 How he went into the house of YHWH, and did take and eat the shewbread, and gave also to them that were with him; which it is not lawful to eat but for the priests alone? 6:5 And he said unto them, That the Son of man is master also of the Sabbath".

First: do the lame teachers not understand: rubbing the corn in their hands was NOT the same as cooking the corn! .....duh!

Second: didn't the moronic talmud teaching Pharisees know that common corn is not as set-apart as shewbread? .....double duh!

Third: where in torah is it unlawful to eat corn during shabat anyway?

Maybe the wannabe scholars should first go back and read the reference provided from Yahushua in 1st Samuel chapter 21,

21:1 Then came David to Nob to Ahimelech the priest: and Ahimelech was afraid at the meeting of David, and said unto him, Why art thou alone, and no man with thee? 21:2 And David said unto Ahimelech the priest, The king hath commanded me a business, and hath said unto me: Let no man know any thing of the business whereabout I send thee and what I have commanded thee, and I have appointed my servants to such and such a place.
21:3 Now therefore what is under thine hand? give me five loaves of bread in mine hand, or what there is present.
21:4 And the priest answered David, and said, There is no common bread under mine hand, but there is hallowed bread; >>> IF the young men have kept themselves at least from women <.

21:5 And David answered the priest, and said unto him, Of a truth >>>women have been kept from us about these three days, < since I came out, and the vessels of the young men are set-apart , and the bread is in a manner common, yea, though it were sanctified this day in the vessel.

21:6 So the priest gave him hallowed bread: for there was no bread there but the shewbread, that was taken from before YHWH, to put hot bread in the day when it was taken away.

point: We see this bread had been hallowed but was now taken down to be replaced with new hallowed bread making the first loaves now COMMON! Not to mention even the taken down bread could only be eaten by those that were in a state of sanctification, .....as we read in torah.

This state of santification for men was first instructed from Exodus 19,

19:10 And YHWH said unto Moses, "Go unto the people, and sanctify them to day and to morrow, and let them wash their clothes, 19:11 And be ready against the third day: for the third day YHWH will come down in the sight of all the people upon mount Sinai. 19:12 And thou shalt set bounds unto the people round about, saying, Take heed to yourselves, that ye go not up into the mount, or touch the border of it: whosoever toucheth the mount shall be surely put to death: 19:13 There shall not an hand touch it, but he shall surely be stoned, or shot through; whether it be beast or man, it shall not live: when the trumpet soundeth long, they shall come up to the mount". 19:14 And Moses went down from the mount unto the people, and sanctified the people; and they washed their clothes.
19:15 And he said unto the people, >>> Be ready against the third day: come not at your wives <.

THIS IS WHAT SANCTIFICATION FOR MEN WAS ACCORDING TO TORAH!

So when Yahushua and his taught ones went through the fields, they were indeed clean and sanctified! >>> due to eshewing carnal contact! ...and why didn't the Pharisees inquire about this anyway? That's what happens when you place talmud above torah >>> YOU GET EXPOSED & CLOWNED!!!

fact: many farmers today still pluck raw corn and taste it for ripeness before chopping it down to sell at the markets, .....nothing new!

SO THAT "YAHUSHUA COOKED FOOD ON SHABAT" IS ANOTHER MYTH

Another issue we really need to address and debunk in this hour is the misunderstanding that also leads to the misteaching pertaining to: what happens to the wicked after death. It is so sad we have so many speakers still spewing out word vomit of those traditional doctrines that we got from "fear mongering" Christians pastors that we still embrace to this very day!
Let's for the sake of accuracy see what the whole of the bible says in context shall we? Those that teach the wicked live forever in eternal torment don't have a clue on contextual understanding and I will debunk that teaching scripturally, not with "sound bites"

First let's address the various words used in the manuscripts from various languages to get us going in the right direction and this is important for a start.
yes, we must define: >>> WHICH "HELL" and it's given purpose?

The Hebrew term used is "SHEOL" refers to: a pit or hole in the ground.

The Greek term used is "HADES" also refers to: a pit or hole in the ground.

The Greek term of "TARTARUS" refers to: a temporary place of restraint.

The Greek term "GEHENNA" refers to: firey place to destroy waste.

So just here alone we see 4 words with 3 different meanings in 2 different languages, >>> NONE of which h'shatan controls! .....selah.

Now as to touching the results of our souls after the judgement of YHWH we really need to apply the "study to show yourself approved - rightly dividing the word of truth" charge, as Paul / Shaul told Timothy but applied for us in these days: BE A VOICE - NOT A ECHO! .... and we must prove that errant teaching that the soul of man lives forever, IS NOT SCRIPTURE! >>> So let's get at it in a way NO ONE can gainsay.

from b'reshyth aka IN THE BEGINNING it was given to us in chapter 2, 2:7 And YHWH Elohim formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a LIVING soul.

.....~ so right from the beginning torah tells us man started off without a living soul. Then when Adam and his isha transgressed Elohym - "their souls" were given the death sentence of mortality, not just their bodies, ( and that's why they didn't drop dead instantly ).

Centuries later we read when YHWH told Ezekiel to tell us who will be held accountable for our own behavior that's recorded in Ezekiel chapter 18,

18:19 Yet say ye, Why? doth not the son bear the iniquity of the father? When the son hath done that which is lawful and right, and hath kept all my statutes, and hath done them, he shall surely live.
18:20 The SOUL that sinneth, it shall DIE. The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father, neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the son: the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him.
......~ so we see YHWH eliminating what was know as "generational curses" that his disciples as well as the the stupid Pharisees still believed in several centuries later due to their lack of understanding the law and the prophets that we saw recorded in John chapter 9,

9:1 And as Yahushua passed by, he saw a man which was blind from his birth. 9:2 And his disciples asked him, saying, Master, who did sin, this man, or his parents, that he was born blind? 9:3 Yahushua answered, "Neither hath this man sinned, nor his parents: but that the works of Elohim should be made manifest in him". .....~ so obviously they were still ignorant of what was written from Ezekiel about our temporary souls and soul's judgement.

So now let's learn by book, chapter and verse that the soul of man will be judged and either brought to YHWH's kingdom or TOTALLY destroyed and remembered no longer.

First let's look one of what's know as one of the "last day" prophets by the name Malaky meaning: "my messenger". In chapter 4 we saw,

4:1 "For, behold, the day cometh, that shall burn as an oven; and all the proud, yea, and all that do wickedly, shall be STUBBLE: and the day that cometh shall BURN THEM UP!", saith YHWH of hosts, "that it shall leave them neither root nor branch. 4:2 But unto you that fear my name shall the Sun of righteousness arise with healing in his wings; and ye shall go forth, and grow up as calves of the stall. 4:3 And ye shall tread down the wicked; for they shall be ASHES under the soles of your feet in the day that I shall do this", saith YHWH of hosts.

.....~ now you really don't have to be a rocket scientist to understand that stubble is NOT a tormented eternal living soul and you really don't have to be a rocket scientist to understand that ashes are also NOT a tormented eternal living soul. ...... nuff said!

Also let's remember psalms chapter 37,

37:37 Mark the perfect man, and behold the upright: for the end of that man is peace. 37:38 But the transgressors shall be DESTROYED together: the end of the wicked shall be CUT OFF. ......~ again you really don't have to be a rocket scientist to understand that being destroyed is NOT a tormented eternal living soul and being cut off is also NOT a tormented eternal living soul.

And many ignored what Yahshua said about souls in Matthew chapter 10,
10:27 What I tell you in darkness, that speak ye in light: and what ye hear in the ear, that preach ye upon the housetops. 10:28 And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to DESTROY BOTH SOUL AND BODY in hell (gehenna).

......~ again you really don't have to be a rocket scientist to understand that being destroyed is NOT a tormented eternal living soul! - and Yahushua said >>> SPEAK THIS IN LIGHT and PREACH THIS ON THE HOUSETOPS !!!

learn: THE FINAL RESULTS of Gehenna fire is permanent, (not perpetual)

It is incredible to me that many that believe this "burn forever" doctrine can't even understand at a beginners level, the scripture that we all have heard over and over and over again >>> John 3:16, ....but let's look at 3:14 thru 3:16,

3:14 And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up: 3:15 That whosoever believeth in him should not PERISH, but have eternal life. 3:16 For YHWH so loved the world, that he gave his only brought forth Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not PERISH, but have everlasting life. .....~ so why does Yahushua talk about final perishing but NO talk about immortal tormenting? -> because he was NEVER sent to teach that!

We see the FINALITY of perishing is compared as a opposite to ETERNAL living, ....nuff said!

There is a old rhetorical question that goes: if a tree falls in the forest and nobody is around to hear it, does it still make a sound? .....Well we need to ask ourselves: If the souls of the wicked will burn and scream eternally in a lake of fire, who will be hanging around it to actually hear them? .....well?

Anyone that teaches the wicked will burn forever is also teaching that the souls of the wicked will never die and will also exist forever like the creator YHWH and Yahshua will exist forever, and if they want to challenge us on this I can also send them to 1st Timothy 6:16,

"Who only hath immortality, dwelling in the light which no man can approach unto; whom no man hath seen, nor can see: to whom be honour and power everlasting" .....~ so now we must challenge anyone that disagrees with this understanding to please give book, chapter, & verse on the eternal existence of wicked souls also: ___________, ______, ____ ?

so we just proved: wicked souls are NOT immortal like righteous YHWH!

Also we should examine 2nd Esdras chapter 7 verses 61-101,
7:61 "I will not grieve over the great number of those who perish; for it is they who are now like a mist, and are similar to a flame and smoke they are set on fire and burn hotly, and are extinguished.”

......~ again you really don't have to be a rocket scientist to understand that being a mist or burned hotly and then extinguished is NOT a tormented eternal living soul.

Maybe some teachers got twisted like a pretzel when they read and tried to understand 2nd Thessalonians chapter 1,
1:6 "Seeing it is a righteous thing with YHWH to recompense tribulation to them that trouble you; 1:7 And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Master Yahushua shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels, 1:8 In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not YHWH, and that obey not the gospel of our Master Yahushua the Messiah: 1:9 Who shall be punished with everlasting DESTRUCTION from the presence of YHWH, and from the glory of his power"

......~ again you really don't have to be a rocket scientist to rightly divide this terminology "everlasting destruction" and understand it does NOT mean everlasting "torment" but instead tells the "destruction of them" will be everlasting, meaning: no more resurrections or chances for them!

Yet others get lost when they try and read Revelation 14:11 without first reading and understand the example laid out previously in Jude verse 7,
1:6 "And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day. 1:7 Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of ETERNAL FIRE".

......~ again you really don't have to be a rocket scientist to understand that the place geographically is not still burning with the spoken of eternal fire, - but the results and damage is still going on to this very day >>> BUT WE SEE THERE IS NO CONTINUAL FIRE !!!

Maybe we also need to examine the end of the matter from the book of Revelation chapter 20,

20:12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before YHWH; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works. 20:13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works. 20:14 And death and sheol were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. 20:15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

.....~ NO WHERE here or in the scriptures did we ever read: lake of fire = "semi" destruction, the lake of fire is the second and permanent death, not permanent torment, any teaching to the contrary shows and proves a lack of scholarship!

So where did this "the soul lives forever" lunacy that many believe come from in the first place?.....no not Hollywood, but it's just as we suspected >>> It started in Egypt, passed on to the Greeks and then later satan's minions aka Catholicism. In the Fifth Lateran Council 1512-17 A.D. session 8, we can read this pagan excerpt: 

In the Fifth Lateran Council 1512-17 A.D. session 8, we can read this pagan excerpt:
For the soul not only truly exists of itself and essentially as the form of the human body, as is said in the canon of our predecessor of happy memory, pope Clement V, promulgated in the general council of Vienne, but it is also IMMORTAL; and further, for the enormous number of bodies into which it is infused individually, it can and ought to be and is multiplied. .....~ WTH?

also you should read 2nd Esdras chapter 7 vs. 59 and vs. 75 on down https://biblia.com/books/nrsv/2Esd7.59

our conclusion: a soul that burns forever is a soul that NEVER dies, and that goes against YHWH's judgement and promise of death doesn't it?

SO THAT "EVERLASTING BURNING OF THE WICKED" IS ANOTHER MYTH

Another issue I need to address is not so much a myth but a amateur misunderstanding do to lack of wisdom and too much emotion. This time I'd like to quickly but correctly explain a parable, "The parable of the laborers".

To see what a parable really is in the first place we have to increase our scholarship. In hebrew the word for parable is "mashal" pronounced: mashal maw-shawl' - meaning: a wisdom saying of various types ( Strong's 4912 ).

This parable of the laborers simply doesn't get taught correctly because it's mainly not understood correctly. Every position mentioned in this parable represents something greater and real soon to come, so let's go back and read this in Matthew chapter 20,

20:1 "For the kingdom of heaven is like unto a man that is an householder, which went out early in the morning to hire labourers into his vineyard. 20:2 And when he had agreed with the labourers for a silver piece a day, he sent them into his vineyard. 20:3 And he went out about the third hour, and saw others standing idle in the marketplace, 20:4 And said unto them; Go ye also into the vineyard, and whatsoever is right I will give you. And they went their way. 20:5 Again he went out about the sixth and ninth hour, and did likewise. 20:6 And about the eleventh hour he went out, and found others standing idle, and saith unto them, Why stand ye here all the day idle? 20:7 They say unto him, Because no man hath hired us. He saith unto them, Go ye also into the vineyard; and whatsoever is right, that shall ye receive. 20:8 So when even was come, the master of the vineyard saith unto his steward, Call the labourers, and give them their hire, beginning from the last unto the first. 20:9 And when they came that were hired about the eleventh hour, they received every man a silver piece. 20:10 But when the first came, they supposed that they should have received more; and they likewise received every man a silver piece. 20:11 And when they had received it, they murmured against the goodman of the house, 20:12 Saying, These last have wrought but one hour, and thou hast made them equal unto us, which have borne the burden and heat of the day. 20:13 But he answered one of them, and said, Friend, I do thee no wrong: didst not thou agree with me for a silver piece? 20:14 Take that thine is, and go thy way: I will give unto this last, even as unto thee. 20:15 Is it not lawful for me to do what I will with mine own? Is thine eye evil, because I am good? 20:16 So the last shall be first, and the first last: for many be called, but few chosen".

......~ yeah yeah, we all have heard this read and taught that some will come early to do the work of YHWH and others later and some even later and the earlier ones got upset because they worked longer and harder ...blah blah blah blah blah, But what should be explained is:

Yahushua was challenging his listeners and us to NOT be like them that labor in the vineyard longer who did all the whining because actually what they are doing is JUDGING!!!

They didn't get cheated out of the agreement they made, >>> they wanted to have a say in what the newcomers get .....THAT AIN'T GONNA HAPPEN! - because having a say in their reward is like having a say in their judgement to salvation, and that's not mankind's decision ( read: Philippians 2:12 ).

Also many teachers ( who obviously never worked long outdoors ) miss the point that after many hours of hard labor you can't quit till the job is done, well the Householder / landowner went and got them some backup so they can then decrease as the newer workers increase,

.... yep, they were to foolish to be grateful for the help! Anyone that ever had a "relief worker" come and take over for them after long hours can understand this point. Also many teachers miss the indication of this parable aka "wisdom saying" because the Householder / landowner represents Yahushua recruiting those for Kingdom work and pay them with salvation and eternal life in that Kingdom! It doesn't matter what age in time your were born or how long you been at it >>> JUST DO THE WORK!! ...it all pays the same in the end!

point: Some people can do the heavy lifting, others medium, others only light work, .....BUT AT LEAST IT'S WORK INSTEAD OF TALK!

and we know from reading James chapter 2,
2:17 "Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone. 2:18 Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works" .....nuff said!

Now to bring us up to a higher level of understanding before we move away from this parable we have to examine the meaning at the end in verse 16, "for many be called, but few chosen" .....~ and we now need to understand that the only thing that is more damaging for us than not "being chosen", is us or our loved ones having the opportunity to choose to believe and won't! ......selah

translation: many are called but few choose ( bad career move! )

SO TEACHING THIS IS JUST ABOUT "WORK HOURS" IS ANOTHER MYTH

as always: it's good to go through the scriptures, but it's better to let the scriptures go through you!

selah and shalom