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h'almah harah ..... virgin conception (clarified)

shalom mishpacha, ALL praises and glory to whom it truly belongs: YHWH!, weh baruka ha'bo b'shem YHWH baruknu'km m'byt YHWH " - blessed is his coming in the name of YHWH >>> Yahushua, - we bless you from the house of YHWH".

I pray all is getting better for you and yours and have faith it will continually do so.

I feel compelled at this time to go into a disturbing and growing errant doctrine from the unlearned that have become a part of the continuing great falling away, the bogus doctrine of denying the virtue of a chosen woman by the most high, to bring forth the anointed one that is his plan of salvation for us.

Too often when it comes to the "virgin birth" conversation the know-it-all's go straight to pagan mythology as a precept or a representation of how the most high YHWH operates (didn't he tell us through the prophet YermiYahu / Jerimiyah to learn NOT the way of the heathen... because the heathen traditions are VAIN! ), well for some reason much of Israel has not hearkened then or now and it will lead to their own judgement as we learned in Matt. 12:35-37, "A good man out of the good treasure of the heart bringeth forth good things: and an evil man out of the evil treasure bringeth forth evil things. 36 But I say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak: they shall give account of n the day of judgement. 37 For by thy words thou shalt be justified, and by thy words thou shalt be CONDEMNED".........- this was a warning from the mashiach himself. 

Real quickly and simply I'd like to delve into two edifying outlooks on the teaching against the virgin birth: a common sense outlook, then a actual scriptural outlook.

1) Common sense:

Lets look at some of the carnal outlooks like: "I don't believe in the virgin birth because it takes a man and a woman to produce a child" ...... well for US this is correct, - But I thought we were talking about the ability of ELOHYM to bring forth his anointed? Not to mention if it takes a man and a woman to bring forth a human, who was Adam's mother?...... better yet, who was Chwh / Eve's mother? ( were they not both human? ). Can the doubters read and reflect on what Shaul wrote in 1st Corinthians 15:45-46, ".....and so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit. 46 Howbeit that was not first which is spiritual, but that which is natural; and afterward that which is spiritual"........- maybe this can take away some of the "spooky" they are troubled with when they read the "holy ghost" came over Mary.

Next lets re-visit the understanding Shaul tried to give in his epistle to those in Galatia that was a warning as well as some edification, in Galatians 6:7-8 he wrote: "Be not deceived; ELOHYM is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap. 8 For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting". ........- this hits on 2 wisdom oriented points:

1) Don't fool yourself into believing you can mock what the Most High does, because man CAN'T,

2) a fleshly seed sewn into Mary could only end in corruption BUT a spiritual seed from YHWH sown into Mary could give us life everlasting >>>Yahushua, ......haleluYAH!

also: the paranoid affiliation with past pagan deities causes some of these know-it-all's to connect Yahushua's mother with the pagan Queen of heaven, but what does a real Mary born of earthly parents, ( a humble young woman that humans have seen) have to do with Aserah / Astarte, etc., and why are the people so confused by the teaching of pagans as well as Catholicism that they can't make the separation they should be able to do by reading the scriptures?

Did these IDIOTS ever shut their mouths long enough to read that Yahushua himself shut down that worship attempt long ago? We with spiritual sense have read with comprehension what the physician Luke wrote that the translators located in 11:27-28, And it came to pass, as he spake these things, a certain woman of the company lifted up her voice, and said unto him, "Blessed is the womb that bare thee, and the paps which thou hast sucked". 28 But he said, "Yea rather, blessed are they that hear the word of ELOHYM, and KEEP IT". ........- this also is a blow against those that still try to do away with YHWH's laws but I want to point out how he SHUT- DOWN the attempt at Queen worship..... poof!

There is no reason what-so-ever a true believer in Yahushua should bare false witness against anyone including his Mother by claiming she wasn't a chaste undefiled woman of virtue simply because THEY lack understanding or are givin to a growing popular doctrine. I thought I read somewhere bearing false witness was NOT to be done - must only apply against neighbors huh?  Why would a person that never met this woman make such claims based on their convoluted understanding? If you are about 2000 years old and know ALL her goings out and comings in, then maybe I might listen to you, but if you're not that old.... SHUT UP!

Remember what a real prophet YeshiYahu / Isayah warned us long ago? In Isayah 5:20-21 he spoke, "Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter! 21 Woe unto them that are wise in their own eyes, and prudent in their own sight!........- "woe" does not mean warning here, it means TROUBLE! There is also wisdom in the apocrypha in the book of Eccesiasticus 5:12, "IF you have understanding, answer your neighbor; but if not, put your hand on your mouth"........- nuff said!.

Christianity, mainly Catholicism have these people so vexed that all they do day and night is look for ways to attack anything that the faithful believe whether it be true of false making these know-it-alls purely P-A-R-A-N-O-I-D. If Yahushua himself was to appear to these people BEFORE the day of judgement and ask them where did they read of or learn this slander.... they would feel like the idiots they really are!, again >>> "....every idle word that men shall speak: they shall give account of n the day of judgement". Remember what apostle Paul wrote in his episle to Titus? lets re-visit Titus 1:10-11, "For there are many UNRULY and VAIN talkers and deceivers, specially they of the circumcision: 11 Whose mouths must be stopped, who subvert whole houses, teaching things which they ought not! - for filthy lucre’s sake".......- and for the record, "lucre" in greek comes the hebrew word "btza" beh'-tsah meaning: plunder; gain (usually unjust) or (dishonest) gain, lucre, profit. so it doesn't have to be money..... it could even be gaining filthy FAME.

Common sense should tell these nuts to shut-up and repent!

2) actual scriptural outlook:

Those that have pathetically attempted to explain-away the virtuous virgin birth of h'mashiach almost make me puke ( yeah I said PUKE! ) from their extremely amature understanding from YeshiYahu / Isayah 7:14, "Therefore Adony himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel". ........- I have heard this prophecy perverted to the point of nauseum! But first lets look at the fulfillment of this prophecy ( for those that understand it already took place), In Matthew chapter 1 verses 18-25 we read: Now the birth of Yahushua h'mashiach was on this wise: When as his mother Mary was espoused to Joseph, BEFORE they came together, she was found with child of the Holy Ghost. 19 Then Joseph her husband, being a just man, and not willing to make her a public example, was minded to put her away privily. 20 But while he thought on these things, behold, the angel of YHWH appeared unto him in a dream, saying, "Joseph, thou son of David, fear not to take unto thee Mary thy wife: for that which is conceived in her is of the Holy Ghost. 21 And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name YAHushua: for he shall save his people from their sins". 22 Now all this was done, that it might be fulfilled which was spoken of YHWH by the prophet, saying, 23 "Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel", which being interpreted is, Elohym with us. 24 Then Joseph being raised from sleep did as the angel of YHWH had bidden him, and took unto him his wife: 25 And KNEW HER NOT till she had brought forth her firstborn son: and he called his name YAHushua .........- the prophet mentioned here was not some internet clown BUT INSTEAD a real prophet - Isayah.

The word Isayah used in his prophecy is not "btulah" but "almah", - so every know-it all gets excited when they go look up the word betulah in the Strong's concordance and find the word "virgin" >>> bthulah: a virgin (from her privacy), a maiden, etc, (Strong's 1330) ..... I personally have NO problem with this understanding as we first saw rendered in B'reshyth and 24:16 & 24:43, And the damsel was very fair to look upon, a virgin, neither had any man known her: and she went down to the well, and filled her pitcher, and came up. (43) Behold, I stand by the well of water; and it shall come to pass, that when the virgin cometh forth to draw water, and I say to her, "Give me, I pray thee, a little water of thy pitcher to drink"; ......- BUT maybe these wannabee biblical scholars didn't look thoroughly into the definition of the word YeshiYahu utilized. He first told them YHWH NOT man, would give them a sign - what kind of special sign is it for a sexually active young woman (as they claim) to have a child? ....DUH

What the prophet told us is easy to understand "IF" you study to show youself approved unto YHWH, RIGHTLY dividing the word of truth. ......... NOW lets go where the amatures fear to tread! The prophet IsaYah went deep on them when he stated: "h'almah" shall conceive, and bear a son". The term "alm-ah" comes from the hebrew root: " a l m " we pronounce as "olam" meaning: to veil from sight, i.e. conceal , to be in secret!, beyond reach, etc.(Strong's 5956) ......- we often use this as a reference to time out of our reach as controlled by the most high YHWH.

This root word "alm" also gives us the hebrew word "t' almah" pronounced tah-al-oom-maw' - meaning: secret hidden thing, thing kept away (Strong's 8587) ......- WOW, now we know why he used this word in that prophecy. This young maiden would not only be a virgin, but a concealed and sheltered young maiden in her Father's house ( hint hint ) away from the reach of defilement.... GAME OVER!

This is a much more strict upbringing than just a "btulah".

fact: In the older and more reliable Greek Septuagint, the word used in the Isaiyah prophecy was "parthenos" pronounced: par-then'-os - it's meaning: a maiden, by implication, an unmarried daughter, virgin. (Strong's 3933)  ...so we see here again their lack of scholarship is exposed!

Before these scripturally challenged fools with no scholarship open their mouth claiming how much "research" they have done maybe they need to go to the source and stop focusing on pagan mythologies.

If you understand the etymology of the word research it's self explanatory - search and search again, till you get it right!

question: In Matthew 12:47-50, Where did Yahushua ever mention a "EARTHLY FATHER"?  ...why not?

think: in John 5:43 Yahushua stated he came in his FATHER'S name, and we know the word "shem" means name/renown - but when did he ever come in Joseph's name or renown?  ...And in John 10:25 He stated "the works that I do in my Father's name" - what works did he do in Joseph's name or renown?

think: who's seed is being referenced in Yeshiyahu / Isaiyah 53:10, YHWH's or Joseph's?

I'm fully aware of the many pagan teaching and traditions the christian religion forced upon the masses from the adversary h'shatan, but if people would STOP focusing on strife with these delusional religious nutcases that have a zeal for the most high YHWH, but not according to knowledge (Romans 10:2) and focus on his word, maybe THEY also won't end up being a part of the great "falling away".

Again, be careful about what you say and teach about somebody's Mother you don't even know.

selah and shalom

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Comment by SheIsLoved on June 18, 2016 at 2:26am

Good post. Nothing is impossible when it comes to our Father in Heaven. She was indeed a virgin. 

Comment by Khtryl (Katriel) Ben Ysryl on February 18, 2012 at 4:55pm

A hearty Shalom to you ahki Shmanu YAH for this great post, I just completed a very spirited conversation with a former messianic ahkote who was messianic a several years ago, who tried her best to argue against the virgin birth of Mashiach YAHUsHa. However because of HIs Ruach in me along with some strong scripture references her aurgument could not and did not stand the test, Todah YAH, however please keep this post up because  The Most High allowed you to make excellent bullitt points that I can always come back to this post to reference, Excellent job and I thank The Most High YAH for you obeying the Ruach for you to post this obvious concern with what we are facing especially with non-messianic stiff neck rebellious Yisrael,

                                                                                                  Todah, Kht'r-yl Ben Ysryl

 

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